看到的一个新帖，希望对恐友有益！
说说我的个人案例吧。38天阴（快速法），小担心。49天阴（快速法）。脱！虽然至今心里面依然有阴影，但是通过帮助大家寻找资料，我也让我自己学到许多的知识。其实恐A并不是一件坏事，至少它残酷的让我们学会了生命的宝贵性。但是恐过久了，就没有意义了,消耗体力，精神。
那些想我一样6周后验完的朋友，请不要总是想，万一我要是没有查出来怎么办？万一我是特殊的怎么办？
不是这样的，我们大部分都是年轻人一时的冲动而犯了错误。况且我们身体都是健康的正常的。
就不要怀疑6周的考验结果，阴就是阴，你以后不再高危那还是阴。
1。关于6周的窗口期
（简单介绍，Massachusetts州是美国对艾滋病研究遥遥领先的州之一）
以下是美国Massachusetts州艾滋病防止中心对外界，HIV感染窗口期的发表
Most people will test accurately for HIV after 6 weeks have passed since their last risk. In very rare cases where a person has a highly compromised immune system, such as those in which a person has recently undergone chemotherapy or an organ transplant, it may take 3-6 months for their body to develop enough antibodies to test positive. These are very extreme situations, however, and other more common conditions such as colds or the flu, diabetes, asthma, and many others, will not affect the body's development of HIV antibodies in that way. Those who suggest window periods longer than 6 weeks are trying to account for all those who may also have compromised immune systems. 绝大多数人在6周后（从最后一次危险活动算起）的hiv测验是准确的。极为少数的人，例如破坏免疫系统的人们，像一些动过内脏手术的人们，也许会在3-6个月才能检查出抗体。以上是非常少数比例的人群，但是，更多平常的例子如感冒，拉肚子，哮喘等等，这些平常的病例是不会影响身体产生抗体。那些建议窗口期长于6周的试图把那些已被破坏免疫系统的人们算在内。
评价：我相信有许多专家都可以认可这个发表，好比咱国内的曹奶奶，论主任，等等。
以下回答是由医生是美国最高研究组组长并担任华盛顿大学教授。毕业于美国哥伦比亚医科大学（美国知名大学之一）H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D. 对咨询做出的回答
病人问
I am a 20 year old white male college student. It has now been about
ten weeks since I had a little too much to drink one night and had
unprotected sex with a 19 year old white girl that I didn't know. She
was a year younger than I am and I'm not sure of her past history as
far as sex goes. I am pretty sure that she is not a drug user however.
At six weeks after possible exposure I tested negative for HIV at our
university health clinic. I got in contact with a doctor in the men's
clinic there and he said that he believes that I should be confident
that I am in fact HIV negative. Should I take this negative result as a
fact that I am HIV negative? Is it necessary to get tested further? I
would really like this all to be over because it has been ruined my
life for the past 10 weeks.
我是一个20岁的小伙子.现在已经10个礼拜,自从那夜我饮酒过多后与一位我不认识的;19岁的女孩子发生了无保护性交.她比我小一岁,而且我并不知道她的性交历史. 但我确定她不吸毒.我6周时去做了检验,为阴. 我与医生谈话时,他非常信任我可以被确诊为没有hiv病毒.我应该这么去想吗?我还需要测验吗?我真的希望这一切都可以结束因为它毁坏了我过去的10个礼拜.
医生回答:
In newly
infected persons, modern HIV tests almost always are positive within 6
weeks. Therefore, I agree with your student health clinic doctor.
刚被感染的人,用现代的hiv检验是几乎每一个都会在6周内体现阳.所以,我同意你的医生的观点.
1。5 关于快速法与6周论
此话题一直是论坛敏感话题，但是既然我找到了权威的回答，我觉得我还是有义务带上来给大家分享。到最后，可靠不可靠，信不信，还要看你自己。
A negative OraQuick test at 29 days is virtually 100% proof you weren't infected. Yes, you can move on if you have a negative HIV test at 6 weeks.
一个阴性的快速法在29天已经非常可以达到接近100%的证据，就是你没有被感染。是的，你可以继续好好生活假如你在6周时有一个阴性报告。
评价：回答的医生是与回答6周窗口期是一个人。
2 关于行为危险评价：
City Clinic is a specialty clinic which has
been providing diagnosis and treatment of sexually transmitted diseases
(STDs) to the San Francisco community since 1933.
此城市医院是一个特殊的医院，自从1933为三藩市（美国高危地区之一）提供性感染疾病检测
以下是医院多年累积关于艾滋病危险程度
全在无保险套存在状态下
Performing oral sex on a man
给与男性口交 (非常低危)
Performing oral sex on a woman
给与女性口交(无数据记载)
Receiving oral sex - man
男性接受口交(无数据记载)
Receiving oral sex - woman
女性接受口交(无数据记载)
Anal sex - top
肛交插入方-高危
Anal sex - bottom
肛交接受方-最高危
Vaginal sex - man
男性阴交-危
Vaginal sex - woman
女性阴交-危
Oral-anal Sex
肛门口交(无数据记载)
2。5 关于无套口交案例分析
由H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D. 回答
续上
案例1 ：无套口交（男女）-接受方
你并没有任何应该担心的问题，因为你身体所接受到的只是唾液，除非给与方口腔内有血流出。唾液本身有强大的杀菌功能。
以下是医生对接受方口交危险性的看法
Receiving oral sex hardly counts as a terrifying experience! Nobody
has been proved to ever catch HIV by receiving a BJ, and some experts
believe it to be no risk at all. Everyone agrees that if there is a
risk, it is in the range of 1 per 20,000 exposures. To put that in
perspective, that means receiving a BJ by an infected partner every day
for 55 years before getting infected.
其实接受口交并不能说为一个那么差的经历吧（医生显然是开玩笑）没有任何人被证明是由于接受口交而感染艾滋病。而且有专家相信这是一个零高危的活动。假如同意这是一个有危险性的活动，那就是1在每2万个同类接触，更好去理解的话就是，从一个艾滋病感染者那里接受口交，每天如此，那也是在55年后才被感染。
评价：由于给与方输出大量唾液，降低被感染几率。前提是只要在双方（私处或口腔）没有出血，破裂。被感染几率还是非常小的。
案例2：
无套口交（男女）-给与方
虽然在理论上，危险还是存在的。但是与3位专家咨询后，1位说是可能性非常小。另外2位则是非常肯定给与方的传染率几乎为0。在他们十几年与HIV战斗的日子里，并无任何病人有此感染，也没有看到任何可靠资料承认口交给与方有任何危险。下面是医生与一个病人的谈话。
病人：
Dear Sirs,
I cannot believe my own stupidity, I work in Nigeria and 10 weeks
ago got very drunk and brought a girl I met in a club home. I gave her
unprotected oral sex and then we had protected vaginal sex. I have been
worried since I woke up and relalized what I had done. I went for a
test today and will get the results on Friday. I feel physically sick
at the thought of going and picking up the results. Any thoughts you
have on the chances of HIV transmission through giving oral sex to a
woman would be appreciated, there is alot of conflicting infomation out
there and I have nobody here to talk to.
病人在尼加拉瓜的迪厅里一位女性发生了性关系，给与对方口交和有套性交。
医生回答
Relax. Most likely you weren't infected. To my knowledge, there are
no documented cases of acquiring HIV by performing cunnlingus on an
infected woman. If it occurs, undoubtedly it is rare. If this is your
only risky behavior recently, you can expect your test result to be
negative. (In fact, if you were my patient and the test came back
positive, I would look you in the eye and say "OK, let's talk about
your real risks, because you didn't catch it during that oral sex
event.")
请你放松，你非常可能没有被感染。从我的经验来讲，HIV病史上没有任何记载病例是由给与（已感染）女性口交行为。假如真的发生了，不可置疑那是极为少见的，假如这只是你唯一的高危经历，你可以等待一个阴的报告。（你要真的是我的病人，而且检测为阳的报告，我会看着你的眼睛，说，ok,我们来谈谈你真正的高危吧，因为你并没有从给与口交传染hiv)
案例3 ：
关于手交和男方给与女方口交
咨询问：
I had sex with an Escort in New York city 28 days ago (Jan 21st). I wore a condom but I gave her oral sex and I also fingered her. After the encounter I realized that there was an open cold sore and a small cut on my finger the one I used to finger her (the sore and cut were there prior to the encounter) so I'm worried now about HIV, also I'm worried because I gave her cunnilingus.
我与一位性工作者在纽约，28天前（1月21号）。我有带保险套但是我给与她口交，并且给与手交。在性交之后我才发现我的是指上有伤口。（伤口是在经历前就有的了）所以我担心是否被传染艾滋病，而且我也担心因为我有给与她口交。
医生回答：
You had safe sex by all definitions. Even if she were, the likelihood you were infected was near zero; there has never been a documented HIV transmission (in either direction) by cunnilingus or by hand-genital contact, with or without cuts or other lesions The likelihood you were infected with HIV is zero. But for anxiety relief, have a standard HIV antibody test 6 weeks after the event.
你其实是被保护性交。即使她是艾滋病病毒携带者，你被感染的几率也接近与零；从来没有一个hiv感染记载（双方）由于男给女口交，或者手交，有或者没有伤口。你被感染的可能性是于零。但是为了心里解脱，可以去查一个平常（任何)HIV抗体检测在6周之后
3。 日常生活中有没有被可能传染艾滋病毒。
咨询问：
My very close friend has tested positive for HIV recently. We used to
be very very close, so i used to share the same soda(drink) from the
same straw with her. meaning i used to share and consume her saliva. I
did that lot of times, may be ten times until now. We used to drink
from the same glass, that is how close we are,sharing the drink. Do i
need to worry about getting HIV from this incident?
Please answer.
咨询者提问 ：我非常要好得一个朋友最近查出是HIV阳。我们原来真的非常密切，我们经常用一个吸管喝饮料。也就是说我原来说过她的口水。这类事情我做过许多次，大概至少有10次了吧。我能不能这样被感染呢？
医生回答：
They call HIV an STD because you have to have sex to transmit it. Or
direct blood exposure, such as by injection drug use. People who live
in the same households of HIV infected people, sharing bathrooms,
eating utensils, and the like, day in and day out, never get
HIV. Everybody knows these things and so should you.
You are not at risk. Your HIV infected friend needs your
friendship and support, not your withdrawal for fear of infection. If
she has a wound and bleeds, and you are the cleaner-upper, wear gloves
and wash your hands. Otherwise don't worry about it. There simply is
no chance.
他们叫hiv也是一种性传播疾病，是因为必须有过性行为方可感染的疾病.或者血液传染,比如针头注射毒品.那些与hiv感染者同吃同住的人们,每日如此,共用餐具,厕所.永远不会得到hiv.所有人都应该明白这点,包括你在内.
你并没有任何危险.你已被感染hiv的朋友需要你的友谊和支持.并不是远离或者恐惧. 假如她有伤口以及流血,而且你又是去清理的那个人,戴上手套并洗手. 所以不必担心.你被感染根本不可能.
4。专家采访：
今天由于本来想采访的专家不可以今天与我促膝长谈，我就投奔去了上次帮助我的测验医生（指导员）那里。
以下我就已ME来简称，医生以DSM简称
me: hi, i'd like to thank you at first for seeing me today.
(谢谢你今天愿意见我）
DSM: oh, that's not a problem at all.
(没有什么关系的）
me: well, let's start with some questions
(那我来问一些问题吧）
DSM: alright, go ahead
(好的，请讲）
me: Which type of test do you preform when someone comes in for a HIV test.
(你都用什么样的测试给那些来检测HIV的人们）
DSM: many doctors have their own ways, but we run rapid test, OralQuick Advance HIV anitbody 1-2.
(每个医生做法不同，但是我是用快速法（口腔）
me: Is that any different to blood draw from finger rapid test?
(这个与从手指抽血快速法有任何不同吗？）
DSM:no, they are all very highly accurate
(没有，他们都是非常准确地）
me: There is this very interesting and new saying about, antibody can generate enough in 6 weeks to be detected by modern test, do you have any comments on this?
(现在有一个非常新影，有意思的说法，就是抗体可以产在6周内产生足够的抗体可以让现在的检测查出来，你对这个有任何看法吗？）
(上次他明显的支持6周论,但是自从我听说我是正式访问他开始保守了)
DSM: I can not really comment on that.
(我不能发表任何意见)
me: I am sorry if that was rude to ask, let me change the question, have you seen any one turn postive from a negative result by 6 weeks? From you 11 years of fighting HIV.
(对不起,我刚才那么问有些不礼貌,让我从新问,从你11年与艾滋病接触的时间,你有见过任何人6周后转阳的吗?)
DSM: No, i have not seen any cases as that
(没有,我没有见过)
me: how many people do you have come and tested for HIV per week?
(你们每周有多少人来测验hiv?)
DSM: not as many as we would like. There are people who encountered a high risk, but without any acknowledgement about HIV. We encourage people to get tested if you have a concern.
(我希望更多的人来, 有些人接触了高危险经历以后,却并不了解hiv.我们鼓励那些有疑问的人来测验)
me: from the people whom are tested postive with HIV, what is the first thing you do ?
(从那些测验阳性HIV的人们,你们下一步怎么做)
DSM: We will try to comfort him or her,and use WB and ELISA to comfirm whether if it is reactive.
(我们先安慰他或者她,并且用WB与EIA共同测验来确定结果)
me: the infected group, tested postive at your clinic, what are their sexual behavior?
(那些被感染的人们,是什么性行为?)
DSM: Most are homosexual and bisexual, from giving or reciving anal sex without protection. But hetrosexual's number is coming up as well.
(主要是同性与双性恋, 原因是接受或者给与肛交,在不用安全套的行为下. 但是男女性交也在逐渐上升)
me: Are those infected from hetrosxual used a condom
(那些男女性交的没有用安全套吗?)
DSM: no they did not, and some were ripped.
(没有使用, 并且有些是破损安全套)
me: do you consider oral sex ( giving and reciving) on both sex, or masterbate someone's private part is dangerous.
(你觉得口交(给与或者接受)男女方,或者手淫是危险的吗?)
DSM: there is a risk for oral sex, but it is exteremly low.
(口交是有一定的危险, 但是是非常渺小的)
me: have you ever seen anyone infected with oral sex?
(你有见过由于口交而感染的人吗?)
DSM:no, never seen one.
(没有,从来没有)
me: When do you think there will be a cure for AIDS?
(你觉得什么时候才能真正的治疗艾滋病)
DSM: hopefully 5 years, hopefully
(希望在5年后,希望是)
由于我觉得他可能有事情要做了,于是我就问他有什么话相对咱们论坛的人们说.
DSM: Educate yourself if you do not know about HIV, do not concludes without a testing result! I encourage everyone to get tested if you were at a risky encounter, do say there s skin rash, or you caught a cold, or your joint hurts. And concludes you have caught HIV, get tested and always use a condom.
(让自己去学习,认识艾滋病,不要在测试前就自我判断你是否感染! 我建议那些有过高危险的人们去测验,不要说你敢冒了,皮肤痒了,关节痛了,就结论说你得艾滋病了. 去测验并且一定要用安全套)
me: thank you very much for your time
(非常谢谢你的时间)
我
续上
我对6周快速的看法关于快速法与6周论
此话题一直是论坛敏感话题，但是既然我找到了权威的回答，我觉得我还是有义务带上来给大家分享。到最后，可靠不可靠，信不信，还要看你自己。
A negative OraQuick test at 29 days is virtually 100% proof you weren't infected. Yes, you can move on if you have a negative HIV test at 6 weeks.
一个阴性的快速法在29天已经非常可以达到接近100%的证据，就是你没有被感染。是的，你可以继续好好生活假如你在6周时有一个阴性报告。
对于现代的快速法, 6周论适合吗?HH: The rapid tests have a higher rate of false positive results (i.e., positive test in someone without HIV) than tests done in laboratories. The window period is the same as for laboratory-based tests.当实验报告与快速法相比,快速法有更高的假阳现象(好比阳的结果出现在一个未感染者). 但是窗口期两者是一样的.
回答是-美国HIV专家 Dr.Hunter Handsfield
快速的准确度
Rapid assays for detecting specific HIV antibody were developed in the late 1980s, and are defined as tests that can yield results in <30 minutes. These tests gained popularity in the early 1990s, and as technology became refined, proved to be as accurate as the ELISA when performed carefully by experienced personnel.
快速法测验艾滋病抗体发明于1980末期，是一种测验方式在30分钟内可以得出结果。这种测验法在1990初期受到广大欢迎，随着科技的进步，快速法已被证明与EIA是同样准确（当相有经验的相关人员给与帮助）
美国HIV Insite 给出的结论
以下是美国国家艾滋病测验中心解释快速法
Rapid Tests:
A rapid test is a screening test that produces very quick results, in approximately 20 minutes. Rapid tests use blood from a vein or from a finger stick, or oral fluid to look for the presence of antibodies to HIV. As is true for all screening tests, a reactive rapid HIV test result must be confirmed with a follow-up confirmatory test before a final diagnosis of infection can be made. These tests have similar accuracy rates as traditional EIA screening tests.
快速法是在短时间内出结果的一种测验, 大约20分钟左右. 快速法可以用血或者口腔分泌水来查看艾滋病抗体, 就像所有的测验方式一样,快速法必须( 假如为阳性)做确诊测验(wb)才可以诊断. 这个测验方式与EIA方式是一样准确地.
以下是美国The body网站介绍快速法
EIA与快速法有什么不同吗?
What is the difference between a rapid HIV test and an EIA?
The rapid HIV test is easier to use and produces results more quickly than the EIA does. The sensitivity and specificity of the rapid HIV test are just as good as those of the EIA.
快速法在出结果时间比EIA要快.但是他们的准确度是与EIA一样精确的.
自我感想:
最近看到许多恐友或者一些人说快速怎么怎么不准确, 怎么怎么不如eia. 上面的解释大家自己看看,自己想想.
尤其是Dr.HH, 深为美国资深艾滋病专家,他说话一定是负责的,有长期的经验才会这么说的. 也许会有许多人不
赞同我的说法,看法. 因为大家都有自己的思想, 但是我非常相信我自己咨询出来的事实!!
国际上的6周论
The state health departments of Vermont, Rhode Island, New York and Massachusetts, the national Health Department of Australia based in Sydney, the L.A. gay Center, various health clinics in San Francisco and many other agencies use the "6-week" window period for HIV testing.
乌尔马特州卫生局（美国）若德岛卫生局（美国），纽约卫生局（美国），马丝出特州卫生局（美国），澳大利亚国家卫生局驻悉尼，洛杉矶同性恋中心，以及数家三藩市的诊所，还有许多其他的有关部门，已经开始使用hiv测验6周论
Keep in mind, these places and agencies are staffed with doctors and scientists VERY knowledgable about HIV and have tons and tons of caseloads for which to perform accurate research on.
请注意，以上的诊所，卫生局都是拥有一批非常了解艾滋病的医生和科学家，而且有非常之多的案例；来进行准确地研究。
These places are some of the most progressive and on the cutting edge of HIV/AIDS research.
他们都是国际上非常先进以及前卫的艾滋病病毒研究所。
The testing methods used to detect HIV antibodies have vastly improved in the past ten years and it doesn't matter whether the test performed on you was Gen 2, 3 or 4 or an OraQuick -- it doesn't matter at all!
在过去的10年来，测验方式在非常迅速的提高，而且不管是什么测验方式，（EIA2,3,4 或者快速法）！
In other less-progressive states, HIV/AIDS probably isn't a priority to them, therefor, they don't bother updating their medical legislation.
在一些不在这个领域进步的州，艾滋病并不是一个重要的事情，所以他们并没有变该他们的医务条令．
自我理解：以上的那些研究所都是非常著名的地方，尤其是洛杉矶同人中心以及澳大利亚国家卫生局，都是国际上，数一数二的艾滋病研究中心．所以现在既然国际上这么多的地方推广６周论．我想恐友们是否可以相信呢？还是那句话，测好６周以后，请正常生活．
最后心得:
这次上帝让我避开了这一劫,但是我学会了宝贵的一课.那就是,我们身边有许多更需要我们关怀与爱的人.不要因为一时的冲动而导致那一切的消失. 我相信每当你想起父母,老婆,孩子,女朋友的时候,你眼前那赤裸而并不熟悉的人会突然给你一个无形的警告,那就是,我还有比你更重要的人,他(她)们还需要我健康的活着!
希望脱恐的朋友们早日回到正常的生活里面. 那些对HIV没有常识的朋友们可以读读我这个文章, 来看看自己是否大惊小怪了,
并且想跟大家说对不起,由于我的业余时间也在有限了,不能抽出大量时间来帮助恐友, 虽然来得很短,但是感觉大家真的都很诚心诚意的帮助大家. 非常的温馨! 走了还真有点舍不得. 最后送给大家这个文章希望它可以帮助你们!
最后我感谢那些在我最无助的时候帮助过我的兄弟们,斑竹们!
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楼主，辛苦你了，我也是英语专业毕业的，谁想到我们学的英文居然用到了这个上，谢谢你的帖子，希望这个帖子可以缓解我们的压力，辛苦你了6周论？
我6周阴，但是在4周内用了大量的抗生素，我想是不是破坏了机体免疫系统啊，这样会也许检不出来吗？也许要等3个月后吗？！
不影响，你放心吧。你安全了，好好过日子 原帖由 hiofhjjkjl 于 2008-10-24 08:57 发表 http://www.120x.net/images/common/back.gif我6周阴，但是在4周内用了大量的抗生素，我想是不是破坏了机体免疫系统啊，这样会也许检不出来吗？也许要等3个月后吗？
抗生素不影响窗口期，请放心。
谢谢各位了
谢谢了，谢谢各位了，心情好多了，可以多睡会。 7# 健康QQ在30天的时候注射过一次更昔洛韦 请问对后面的检测有影响吗 学习了，争取早日理性脱恐。
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