DTSY，但是带套前YJ碰到过分泌物，会增加感染风险吗？

xinkongyou

如题。望专家分析！

xinkongyou

如果我手上沾了体液，带套的时候手接触了YJ，这样再带上套做SY，那么体液和YJ不就在一个密闭的环境下摩擦了吗？这样不等同于WTXJ吗？
我好担心啊！

a良

没风险，别多想

xinkongyou

谢谢良哥回复！能给我解释一下为什么吗？

xinkongyou

能帮我解释一下吗？

迷迷茫茫

xinkongyou 发表于 2012-6-24 21:16
能帮我解释一下吗？

因为你的行为就是被统计在WTSY里面，就是WTSY中那个最经典的问题：对方用分泌物做润滑剂的问题，而WTSY全世界从来没有因此发现感染者，所有外国专家和大多数中国专家均认为无风险，无需检测

静待风起

迷迷茫茫 发表于 2012-6-24 23:13
因为你的行为就是被统计在WTSY里面，就是WTSY中那个最经典的问题：对方用分泌物做润滑剂的问题，而WTSY全 ...

对方用分泌物做润滑剂;也会被归结为WTSY吗？
我的情况比这个安全的多，但担心的实质就是这个。

迷迷茫茫

静待风起 发表于 2012-6-25 08:44
对方用分泌物做润滑剂;也会被归结为WTSY吗？
我的情况比这个安全的多，但担心的实质就是这个。

问题：great job and keep it up doctor.
i know a college girl living in america. she is 23 yrs old. i know her for apporx 2 yrs and she is clean. she was playing or masturbating with her clitorisis. then she touched my penis for a few mins. i have a small cut in my penis due to dermatitis. i immediately went to the rest room to clean up using a tissue paper just to make sure.
is there any risk of getting hiv due to the hand-genital exposure for a brief period of 2 mins due to vaginal fluids. is there a rick of getting any other stds.
quite concerned.
thanks a lot
回答：
by Edward W Hook, MD , Aug 24, 2009

Welcome to the Forum.  Even before I answer your question, let me suggest that there is relatively little need for concern.  While we do encourage all sexually active persons to take precautions against acquisition of HIV and other STDs, in most individual exposures the risk is low.  For instance, the risk of your partner having HIV is less than 1 in 1000 unless she was an IV drug user.   
As for the exposure you describe, there is no risk.  Mutual masturbation is safe sex and is of little concern.  It is typical for persons engaged in mutual masturbation to get each other's genital secretions on one another yet o no one has ever gotten HIV from mutual masturbation. This is true even for persons with dermatitis or other small sores on their genitals.  You will not be the first.   
The risk for other STDs, while no zero, is close to zero.  Hope this helps.  Take care.  EWH
简略翻译：
问题：跟女孩相互SY，她ZW后手上沾有vaginal fluids，男孩YJ因为皮肤炎有伤口，被女孩那只手SY。
回答：对于你所描述的行为，没有危险。相互SY是安全性行为并且不需要担心，在过程中彼此间的体液相互交流很正常。那依然是适用于生殖器上有皮肤炎或是其他的裂口。你不会是第一个这种方式被感染的。
其他性病的危险，即便不是零，也接近于零。

迷迷茫茫

静待风起 发表于 2012-6-25 08:44
对方用分泌物做润滑剂;也会被归结为WTSY吗？
我的情况比这个安全的多，但担心的实质就是这个。

First of all, sadly, there is a very overlinflated view of HIV among a large portion of the general population.  I feel this is related to a lot of the "hype" and media around the virus.  The FACT is, HIV is a very difficult virus to transmit.  Comparable to other viruses (ie influenza), it is a very WEAK and unstable virus that succombs to the environment rapidly.  It needs basically a set of near perfect circumstances to allow for infection.  Therefore, a person CANNOT get HIV from environmental surfaces, like toilet seats, manicure/barber equipment, shower stalls, drinking glasses, toothbrushes, etc etc.  The virus quickly becomes inactive when it is outside of its host (the body).  This is why infection from inanimate objects is impossible.  This is also why mutual masturbation with exposure to a partner's gential fluids is also NOT a risk in any way.  This also is the case with cuts, abrasions, cracked cuticles, etc.  Those things make no difference when it comes to risk, as the virus is outside of its host, rendering it inactive.
首先，不幸的是，普通人群中有很大的一部分人对于HIV的传播的观点过于夸大。我认为这和关于这个病毒“天花乱坠的广告宣传”和媒体报道有很大关系。而真相是，HIV是非常难传播的一种病毒。和其他病毒相比（比如流感），它在外界环境中是非常脆弱和不稳定的。它需要基本上是近乎完美的条件才可能构成感染。所以，一个人是不可能从外界环境表面感染HIV的，比如马桶座，修甲/理发工具，淋浴室，饮料杯，牙刷，等等。病毒在离开寄主（身体）之后很快就失活了。这就是为什么从一个无生命的物体那里感染是不可能的。这也就是为什么暴露于对方生殖器体液的相互手-淫无论如何都没有风险。这包括那些手上有口子的，破损的，倒刺等等。这些东西不增加任何风险，因为病毒是在寄主体外的，病毒失活了。

xinkongyou

你转的这两个帖子我已经看过，谢谢！
我现在担心的是，体液如果在套套的内侧，跟YJ摩擦，会不会增加风险呢?