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发表于 2010-1-24 19:33 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
帖子中这位叫Dave的哥们,大概在一年前恐过,和大多数人一样留下了心理阴影,这回又恐上接吻了,有明显的强迫症倾向。一起看看Dr.Hook是怎么答复人家的15美元的问题。

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Q: Hello Dr. EWH / HHH,



I posted questions on this board last summer when I was all stressed out about the encounter that I had. Testing cleared things out and after that I haven't had sexwith anyone until now being affraid to go through a similar experience that I did last summer.



Now I met someone and we went out on few dates and yesterday we deep-kissed for about 30 seconds to a minute but about 20 minutes before that I accidently bit my lower lip while chewing something. I came home and checked the bite - it was small but indeed the skin was broken and the area was red. It wasn't bleeding when I checked it (about 30-40 minutes after we kissed) but I'm affraid when we kissed it might have been. What if she is hiv positive - would that incident put me at risk? I started worrying about it. Do I have anything to worry about? She works in an industry with a lot of gay people and she mentioned to me that she knows a couple people at work who are hiv positive. That raised a flag for me and I'm worried about this incident now. What if she had a little cut that was bleeding in her mouth??? Theoretically I understand if her blood would get into my open sore that would put me at risk but practically is it possible to get it though kissing?



Thank you very much

Dave

问:Dr.EWH/HHH你们好,去年夏天我在这里发过帖子咨询过你们,那时候我因为一次高危的遭遇吓坏了。后来我通过检查脱恐了,从那以后我没有和任何人性jiao,我实在害怕再一次碰到类似的情况了。(译注:小子大概是去年夏天破套了,恐的都不敢性jiao了,因噎废食啊,汗一把!)

现在我认识了一位女孩,刚谈没多久,昨天我们深吻大概半分钟到一分钟,但是大概在20分钟之前我在吃东西的时候把下嘴唇咬了。我回家之后马上检查嘴唇 – 有一个很小的红色的伤口。 我检查的时候没有在流血(大概在我们接吻30-40分钟之后),但是我担心在我们接吻的时候在流血。如果她是感染者我有危险吗?我开始担心了。我有什么值得担心的吗?她所从事的行业里面有很多男同性恋,而且她告诉我她认识一些感染者。这把我吓一跳,我非常担心这次行为。要是她嘴里也有一个正在流血的创口又怎么样呢???(译注:美国的恐友和中国的恐友想象力是一样的丰富啊!)理论上来说,我能理解如果她的血液进入我开放的伤口我是有危险的,而实际上有没有可能通过接吻传播呢?

非常感谢!

Dave

A: I'll first answer your question and then have a comment.  The answer is very easy.  HIV is not transmitted by kissing, deep or otherwise and the presence of mouth sores, bleeding lips, gum disease , etc do not change this.  No one has ever gotten HIV by kissing of any sort.  You do not need to worry about this and certainly do not need testing.



My comment however is to suggest that you take time to reflect on whether your fear of HIV is rationale and consider how it might impact your life.  Please remember, HIV is a very rare infection, infecting less than 1 in a thousand Americans and only a minority of persons who have characteristics which place them among higher risk groups, i.e.  men who have sex with other men, drug users, etc.  Knowing someone who has HIV does not put a person at risk, nor does working in an industry with "a lot of gay people."  I worry that your fears are really out of proportion with reality and that they may have a negative impact with interactions with others.  Please consider this.  EWH

答:我先回答你的问题再给你一点建议。答案非常简单。HIV是不会通过接吻传播的,深吻,浅吻,嘴巴有伤的,嘴唇流血的,牙龈有问题的,等等都不能改变这个答案。你没有必要担心这些也没有必要去检查。

无论如何我还是给你一些建议,我建议你花点时间好好想想你对HIV的恐惧是否有根据,再考虑一下它可能会怎样影响你的生活。请记住一点,HIV还是很少见的传染病,在美国只有不到1/1000的人感染,而只有一小部分有如下特征的人将自己置于更高风险的群体,比如男男同性行为者,吸毒人员等。知道某人是感染者,或是从事的行业中“有很多同志”并不意味她就是高危人群。我很担心你的恐惧脱离了实际,而这些对你的人际关系会有很大的负面影响。好好想想吧。EWH(译注:字字珠玑,说到恐友的心坎上了,赞一个!你是不是这样神经过敏呢?)



Qr. EWH,



Thank you so much for your answers! I understand that I do have a fear of hiv that is out of proportion - thank you very much for pointing this out to me - your opinion matters a lot to me and I will try to address my phobia.

Thank you very much once again.



问:Dr.EWH您好, 非常感谢您的答复!我知道我的恐惧有点过头了-非常感谢你指出这一点-您的观点对我很有用,我将努力摆脱恐惧。

再次感谢。



Q: Dr. EWH,



Is it really true that less than 1 in a thousand Americans is infected with hiv? I remember reading something long time ago that said that one in every 92 Americans is infected - that's about 10 times more than the statistics that you mentioned. It would mean that about 3 million Americans would be infected with hiv and if it's 1 out of a thousand it would be around 300, 000.



Thank you very much!

问:Dr.EWH您好,是真的只有不到1/1000的美国人感染吗?我记得很久以前看到的资料说是1/92的美国人,这可是你提到的统计数据的十倍啊!那意味着有约300万的美国人感染了HIV,而如果是1/1000的话那就是约30万美国人感染了HIV。

非常感谢!(译注:美国的恐友虽然也很啰嗦,但是很有礼貌,值得学习!看我们的咨询贴就像色情文学)

A: there are fewer than 1 million American who have HIV in a nation with a population of nearly 350 million  (1 infection per 350 Americans = 0.3%).   Most infections are present among men who have sex with men or IV drug users.  Among heterosexual men and women, overall there are fewer than 1 infection per thousand Americans.   



This will end this thread.  EWH

答:有大概不到一百万美国人感染HIV,而美国有3亿5千万人(每350个美国人中1个感染者=0.3%)。大多数的感染者集中在男同和静脉吸毒者中。在异性恋的男性和女性中,总的来说只有不到1/1000的感染者。



Q: Dr. EWH,



Could you please address my last question in this thread - I remember reading that one of the reasons that intercourse with and infected person has high hiv transmission rate is because of the friction during the intercourse the virus is sort of rubbed into the tissue through mucus membranes or micro tears in the skin. Therefore I was just thinking - I remember rubbing my sore on the lip with my tongue for a while shortly after the kiss trying to feel with my tongue how bad of a cut I had in the area where I accidently bit myself. What if there was some infected blood present on my tongue - would the fact that I rubbed it against the sore increase the risk of transmission?



Please answer my last question in this thread Dr. EWH.



Thank you very much for your help.

问:Dr.EWH,可以回答我本帖的最后一个问题吗,我记得我看过性传播有较高的传播率其中的一个原因是因为性jiao过程中的摩擦,病毒某种程度上是通过粘膜破损或皮肤上微小的伤口揉搓进入人体组织的。所以我在想-我记得在接吻之后,为了看看嘴唇上的伤口到底有多严重,我用舌头舔了嘴唇的痛处一会儿。要是我的舌头上有一些感染性的血液,我用舌头舔嘴唇痛处的行为是否增加了传播的风险呢?(译注:哦,上帝!看到没有,这就是恐友,这就是强迫症和妄想症的怪圈,又绕回来了,Dr.EWH要吐血了!)

非常感谢你的帮助。



A: This is a "what if" question in which you are tryng to convince yourself that you are at risk - you are not.  The FACT is that no one ever has gotten HIV through kissing.  No One!  Ever!  This sort of theoretical. fantastical quesation does you no good.  Your WILL NOT be the first person to get HIV by kissing.   Believe the data.  End of discussion.  EWH

答:这就是所谓的“要是…怎么样”的问题,你想因此来说服你处于风险之中—而实际上你没有。事实就是从来没有谁通过接吻感染HIV。没有谁!从来没有!(译注:哈哈,开始吐血了!)这一类理论上的,捕风捉影的问题对你没有任何好处。你不会是第一个通过接吻感染的人。相信历史的数据。别再讨论了。(译注:烦不过了,终于发飙了,碰到墨迹的实在没办法)EWH
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发表于 2010-1-24 19:41 | 显示全部楼层
有道理,美国医学界研究艾滋病比我们强多了。
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发表于 2010-1-24 20:15 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2010-1-24 21:21 | 显示全部楼层
我还想强调下,比起DR HHH,DR EWH是一位更为保守的 专家

如果EWH说没有风险,那真的是绝对绝对没有风险
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-24 22:16 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢楼上几位  我就是恐接吻 和一个吸毒的坐台小姐接吻了  最近都在恐  现在心里踏实多了  但不去检测可以吗
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-24 22:17 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢楼上几位  我就是恐接吻 和一个吸毒的坐台小姐接吻了  最近都在恐  现在心里踏实多了  但不去检测可以吗
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发表于 2010-1-24 22:29 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-1-24 22:41 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢你。。。。。。。。。。。。
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发表于 2010-1-25 23:25 | 显示全部楼层
楼主的资料我很喜欢。我最近就烦恼这个啊,但是时间太短,才刚到2周。这窗口期的折磨就像坐牢一样,而且还是无期徒刑那种。。。可是人家无期徒刑只要表现好,还能转有期。。。这HIV一旦染上了,就game over了。。。
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