7788
发表于 2010-2-7 00:42
同意楼上的不排除有其他高危行为是个男人接吻之后的状态我想每个人都清楚
一激动也许就干了那事 也就很好的说明是通过性jiao感染而非接吻 无非只是掩饰自己的行为
但是这个关于接吻比赛的案例确实很雷人 不知道当事人有没有过其他高危行为!
Mcnbasotl
发表于 2010-2-7 00:50
就是,我也在想,接吻那么久,肯定有亲密动作,这男女能控制住?事后多半就去酒店找了个房间。。。不过这条消息在网上能轻易搜索到,所以觉得震撼,所以觉得可怕。而人家只承认KISS了。。。
onobob
发表于 2010-2-7 08:13
kj不是也没有实例证明过有吗,medhelp几乎一边倒的说不可能
say
发表于 2010-2-8 16:40
我英语专业的,从去年八月恐到现在,从国内论坛泡到medhelp,相比之下medhelp最权威。官方。medhelp医生回答WTBDKJ都是no risk是否需要检测都是无需检测。感染艾滋病的方式只有 无保护阴 道性 交
无保护肛 门性 交
共用针具
母婴
世界上没有一例是通过WTBDKJ感染的,希望仁心仁术大哥给证实下
seven111222
发表于 2010-2-9 18:52
顶顶,希望Q哥和仁心哥。证实下。
say
发表于 2010-2-9 23:24
DR HHH的意思还有之于WTBDKJ的no risk 和very low risk是一样的,因为世界上没有完全绝对的。
seven111222
发表于 2010-2-9 23:26
楼上这位有详细文献能说下吗?
say
发表于 2010-2-9 23:51
Jul 25, 2009 11:42AM- 2 comments
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It's very, very rare that I now post on these forums. But I do still from time to time have a look at what's going on. And it still seems that there is some unease amongst posters with regard to unprotected oral sex.
It seems that for the most part Teak and LizzeLou and others are stuck on some repetitive answering service regarding this subject. I'd just like to offer some insight into this in a way that is hopefully easy to understand. And hopefully they would be good enough to make comment on this post as well.
Firstly, there have been numerous studies that have monitored sero-discordant couples (both GAY and STRAIGHT) who, use condoms for penetrative intercourse, that's anal and vaginal sex, but do not use barrier methods for oral sex. These studies have shown that the all the sero-negative persons in these studies have remained just that; NEGATIVE. This proves that barrier contraception when used correctly for Anal and Vaginal sex is 100% EFFECTIVE and stopping infection. Secondly, it PROVES that oral sex is not a transmission risk for HIV infection. These studies are genuine scientific studies that have been peer reviewed. And were conducted over periods of years, not weeks or months. And were quite large in scale.
That said, if you are having or have had unprotected oral sex - either way, male or female, you ARE at risk of contracting other more COMMON and very TREATABLE STI's like; Chlamydia (the most common STI in the world), Genital herpes, Non-specific urethritis, Trichomoniasis, Genital warts, Gonorrhoea, Syphilis, etc.
There are always going to be "reports" of people who claim that they were infected with HIV solely through giving\receiving through oral sex, but please REMEMBER that not one of these cases has EVER been confirmed that oral sex alone infected them. People can tell lies, not wanting to admit that their risks were greater, or they simply can't remember. You can also look at it another way; how many episodes of unprotected oral sex, must occur across the planet. If HIV was transmitted by oral sex the numbers living with the disease and those who have died of AIDS would surely be in the billions.
Questions about having ulcers, abrasions and the like do not alter this FACT. The only way, oral would even be considered a risk for transmission would be to have serious open profusely bleeding wounds in the mouth area and have a partner who had very obvious, very large and open, profusely bleeding wounds on their genitals. And trust me on this; sex of any kind would be the very last thing on either parties minds.
All the Doctors I have personally spoken to, face to face or online have all stated that that there is for all intents and purposes no risk in HIV infection from oral sex. You will sometimes here about "Theoretical risk". Thats because every time you have sex with someone there will be a theoretical risk of catching something. To put it another way; In the UK we have a national lottery. I do it every week. There is a theoretical chance that I will win the jackpot, because I've bought a ticket. After nearly 20 years of doing the lottery I still haven't won anything. And I probably never will. Thats what "theoretical" means. In the real world it means I haven't given up my day job, because the odds are so remote they are beyond measure. It is the same with oral sex.
If you feel the need to test over an incident of oral sex. Expect a negative result. Most places I know, will test you; it's firstly a good habit to be in and secondly the NHS will provide free point of care, or a private clinic will charge you. But they will test you if you ask. It's just that they DON'T recommend testing every time you give or receive a fellatio or perform cunnilingus. Thats a FACT.
So, the bottom line of my post; DON'T lose sleep over HIV infection after unprotected oral sex. DO; get tested for the more common and more infectious STI's that YOU can catch from oral sex.
say
发表于 2010-2-10 00:01
All the Doctors I have personally spoken to, face to face or online have all stated that that there is for all intents and purposes no risk in HIV infection from oral sex. You will sometimes here about "Theoretical risk".
所有医生无论我当面咨询,或者额mail咨询都说口交没有传播HIV的风险。
There are always going to be "reports" of people who claim that they were infected with HIV solely through giving\receiving through oral sex, but please REMEMBER that not one of these cases has EVER been confirmed that oral sex alone infected them.
你可能会同个很多渠道听说KJ能传播艾滋病的传言但是没有一个是可以证明口交是单独传染的,就是说不是充分条件。
seven111222
发表于 2010-2-10 00:01
哪位E文好的朋友可以翻译下。