xinkongyou 发表于 2012-6-21 21:25

恐分泌物了,专家能帮帮我吗?

我一时糊涂,去了洗浴中心,找了个XJ。
但全程无XJ,先是按摩,后来DTKJ,然后换了一个套,DTSY到射精。
看了坛子里面的很多帖子,知道DTKJ和DTSY没有感染的可能。
可是让我害怕的是,我摸过XJ的下体,接触到了体液,中间换套的时候有没有可能粘了体液的手碰到JJ或者尿道而引起感染啊?
还有就是,我没有洗手就洗澡了,也洗了自己的JJ,从接触XJ到洗澡中间隔了5,6分钟,会不会在洗澡的过程中手上的体液碰到JJ或者尿道引起感染呢?

请专家们帮我分析分析,感激无限啊!

迷迷茫茫 发表于 2012-6-21 21:29

你怕的是分泌物接触到你的YJ,对吧,这相当于无套SY
无套被动手淫自艾滋病发现以来,几千万感染者 每年上亿次被动手淫,没有发现一例因此而感染,所有外文资料及大多数中国专家均认为无风险,不需要检测,不放心的话,你去搜索一下百度前几位的艾滋病论坛 进入后搜索 推油 手淫 飞机 等关键词 就明白了

xinkongyou 发表于 2012-6-21 21:37

我也看过很多帖子了,我怎么觉得我的情况有点像WTXJ呢,因为体液接触YJ的话,不就有感染的可能了吗?
而且我担心XJ给我KJ的时候,会损伤我的YJ,造成一些小的伤口。在这之后,如果体液接触了伤口,病毒有没有可能从这些小伤口进入体内呢?

迷迷茫茫 发表于 2012-6-21 21:48

xinkongyou 发表于 2012-6-21 21:37 static/image/common/back.gif
我也看过很多帖子了,我怎么觉得我的情况有点像WTXJ呢,因为体液接触YJ的话,不就有感染的可能了吗?
而且 ...

你等我一下,我给你找找依据去

迷迷茫茫 发表于 2012-6-21 21:49


问题:great job and keep it up doctor.
i know a college girl living in america. she is 23 yrs old. i know her for apporx 2 yrs and she is clean. she was playing or masturbating with her clitorisis. then she touched my penis for a few mins. i have a small cut in my penis due to dermatitis. i immediately went to the rest room to clean up using a tissue paper just to make sure.
is there any risk of getting hiv due to the hand-genital exposure for a brief period of 2 mins due to vaginal fluids. is there a rick of getting any other stds.
quite concerned.
thanks a lot
回答:
by Edward W Hook, MD , Aug 24, 2009

Welcome to the Forum.Even before I answer your question, let me suggest that there is relatively little need for concern.While we do encourage all sexually active persons to take precautions against acquisition of HIV and other STDs, in most individual exposures the risk is low.For instance, the risk of your partner having HIV is less than 1 in 1000 unless she was an IV drug user.   
As for the exposure you describe, there is no risk.Mutual masturbation is safe sex and is of little concern.It is typical for persons engaged in mutual masturbation to get each other's genital secretions on one another yet o no one has ever gotten HIV from mutual masturbation. This is true even for persons with dermatitis or other small sores on their genitals.You will not be the first.   
The risk for other STDs, while no zero, is close to zero.Hope this helps.Take care.EWH
简略翻译:
问题:跟女孩相互SY,她ZW后手上沾有vaginal fluids,男孩YJ因为皮肤炎有伤口,被女孩那只手SY。
回答:对于你所描述的行为,没有危险。相互SY是安全性行为并且不需要担心,在过程中彼此间的体液相互交流很正常。那依然是适用于生殖器上有皮肤炎或是其他的裂口。你不会是第一个这种方式被感染的。
其他性病的危险,即便不是零,也接近于零。

迷迷茫茫 发表于 2012-6-21 21:51

First of all, sadly, there is a very overlinflated view of HIV among a large portion of the general population.I feel this is related to a lot of the "hype" and media around the virus.The FACT is, HIV is a very difficult virus to transmit.Comparable to other viruses (ie influenza), it is a very WEAK and unstable virus that succombs to the environment rapidly.It needs basically a set of near perfect circumstances to allow for infection.Therefore, a person CANNOT get HIV from environmental surfaces, like toilet seats, manicure/barber equipment, shower stalls, drinking glasses, toothbrushes, etc etc.The virus quickly becomes inactive when it is outside of its host (the body).This is why infection from inanimate objects is impossible.This is also why mutual masturbation with exposure to a partner's gential fluids is also NOT a risk in any way.This also is the case with cuts, abrasions, cracked cuticles, etc.Those things make no difference when it comes to risk, as the virus is outside of its host, rendering it inactive.
首先,不幸的是,普通人群中有很大的一部分人对于HIV的传播的观点过于夸大。我认为这和关于这个病毒“天花乱坠的广告宣传”和媒体报道有很大关系。而真相是,HIV是非常难传播的一种病毒。和其他病毒相比(比如流感),它在外界环境中是非常脆弱和不稳定的。它需要基本上是近乎完美的条件才可能构成感染。所以,一个人是不可能从外界环境表面感染HIV的,比如马桶座,修甲/理发工具,淋浴室,饮料杯,牙刷,等等。病毒在离开寄主(身体)之后很快就失活了。这就是为什么从一个无生命的物体那里感染是不可能的。这也就是为什么暴露于对方生殖器体液的相互手-淫无论如何都没有风险。这包括那些手上有口子的,破损的,倒刺等等。这些东西不增加任何风险,因为病毒是在寄主体外的,病毒失活了。

迷迷茫茫 发表于 2012-6-21 21:55

事实上,恐无套被动手淫的人都是恐三点:1、XJ手上出血 2、 XJ手上有上一位客人的分泌物 3、恐XJ先用手摸自己的分泌物,再手淫对方,这是恐的最多的,也是最经典的问题,相关的帖子非常多,结论只有一个,无风险 ,无需检测

xinkongyou 发表于 2012-6-21 22:02

谢谢您的回复,真的让我学习了很多。
这些材料都是哪里找到的啊?权威吗?
为什么坛子里的其他专家不做个总结帖放在置顶呢?

迷迷茫茫 发表于 2012-6-21 22:08

你去搜索一下百度前几位的艾滋病论坛 进入后搜索 推油 手淫 飞机 等关键词
太多太多了,恕我实在无力帮您全部出示了
事实上所有外国专家都认为像你这种手和生殖器之间的事情是无法传播艾的

xinkongyou 发表于 2012-6-22 07:39

各位专家,我又想到一个情况,不知道会不会增加风险。
如果我手上沾了体液,换套的时候接触了YJ,这样在带上套做SY,那么体液和YJ不就在一个密闭的环境下摩擦了吗?这样不等同于WTXJ吗?
我好担心啊!
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