诚心知错
发表于 2011-12-7 13:41
失败者 发表于 2011-12-7 10:48
我知道啊,其实这种情况风险性很低的,我是说下次不要射在脸上了,你去检查下吧,不出意外,能拿阴单
谢谢你了。希望我能阴。。。我才刚找到工作。以后一定不会再这样了!!!!!!!
失败者
发表于 2011-12-7 13:43
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谢谢你了。希望我能阴。。。我才刚找到工作。以后一定不会再这样了!!!!!!!
祝阴!
donotworry
发表于 2011-12-7 13:46
没有风险
1. No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States
Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228
AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men
Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 . Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.
Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:
Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;
Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.
There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD
"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD
"I am sure you can find lots of people who believe that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK
"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK
in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA
"HIV is not spread by masturbation, through oral sex, through kissing or other casual contact." Dr. Hook
"The observation on thousands and thousands of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK
"I would not say your risk ,if he had HIV is "slim to none"- that's too high.I would say they are effectively zero.How much of his ejaculate or other genitalsecretions you may have swallowed makes no difference.EWH "
"As far as HIV is concerned, there is no known risk of getting HIV from performing oral sex on an infected partner, even if that person's genital secretions get into your eyes or if you swallow." Dr.Hook
2.HIV is unable to reproduce outside its living host (unlike many bacteria or fungi, which may do so under suitable conditions), except under laboratory conditions; therefore, it does not spread or maintain infectiousness outside its host.
诚心知错
发表于 2011-12-7 14:02
donotworry 发表于 2011-12-7 13:46
没有风险
1. No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
呃。。看不懂英语
donotworry
发表于 2011-12-7 14:04
诚心知错 发表于 2011-12-7 14:02 static/image/common/back.gif
呃。。看不懂英语
这是关于口交不传艾滋病的国外研究期刊上的论文 和一些专家的看法 不是我整理的 是teak整理的 你应该知道teak是谁吧 呵呵 意思告诉你 你没有任何风险
诚心知错
发表于 2011-12-7 14:48
donotworry 发表于 2011-12-7 14:04
这是关于口交不传艾滋病的国外研究期刊上的论文 和一些专家的看法 不是我整理的 是teak整理的 你应该知道 ...
即使我口腔里面有一点破损也没有风险??teak我不认识。看样子是个很权威的人?
donotworry
发表于 2011-12-7 15:28
只要不是很大的流血的伤口 就没事 因为唾液可以抑制病毒 另外口腔环境已经属于体外环境了 所以没危险的 Teak 是美国medhelp HIV prevention 论坛的斑竹
诚心知错
发表于 2011-12-7 15:31
donotworry 发表于 2011-12-7 15:28
只要不是很大的流血的伤口 就没事 因为唾液可以抑制病毒 另外口腔环境已经属于体外环境了 所以没危险的 Tea ...
谢谢。这无疑是对我莫大的鼓励啊!满六周测一次直接脱,另外洁身自好才是真啊。我不想再重蹈覆辙了。
donotworry
发表于 2011-12-7 15:34
不客气 建议学学英文 到美国的网站和论坛上看看 这的恐怖分子实在太多了 而医院里医生大部分有十分保守
诚心知错
发表于 2011-12-7 15:50
donotworry 发表于 2011-12-7 15:34
不客气 建议学学英文 到美国的网站和论坛上看看 这的恐怖分子实在太多了 而医院里医生大部分有十分保守
嗯。如果我是阴我就再也不回来了!